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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
 
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—[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 
—[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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: I'm colorblind, but I'm fine with changing it--looks okay to me. I'm not sure I like changing the border to black though. How about this? It's the background color darkened significantly (in HSV, I took V from 100 to 50).
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<div style="margin: 0.5em 2em;">
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{| style="background-color: #adffa6; border: 1px solid #578053; color: #000; margin: 0;"
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| style="vertical-align: top; padding: 0.25em;" | [[File:Healthbar notify alert.png|34px]]
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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
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{{{note}}}
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:-- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 18:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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::I didn't care one iota about the border color... I was just too lazy to look up a HEX color that looked right.  {{smile}}  So, that's fine by me.  —[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 20:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::Gotta admit I'm a little blinded by the green. When we [http://www.cohtitan.com/forum/index.php/topic,2887.msg30342.html#msg30342 first talked about the color] it was to keep it in a comic book theme. *shrug*  -- [[User:Blondeshell|Blondeshell]] 21:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::: Well, both of them look fine to me, so consider me as having no opinion then. :) -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 22:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::Better?  Toned it down a bit.  I guess I don't really get the yellow box idea from that thread.  But, if folks have a strong preference not to make it match, that's cool with me.
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::{| style="background-color: #C7F6C3; border: 1px solid #578053; color: #000; margin: 0; {{CSSBorderRadius|10px}}"
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| style="vertical-align: top; padding: 0.25em;" | [[File:Healthbar notify alert.png|34px]]
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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
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{{{note}}}
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:::BTW, the rounded corner thing is AWESOME!
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:::—[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 23:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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::::[[File:Ednote example.jpg]] -- [[User:Blondeshell|Blondeshell]] 02:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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:I don't like the green. At all. EdNotes shouldn't pop out like that, they should moderately blend in. The wiki is about the documentation, not the editor's notes. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 01:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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::Are you saying that the green blends in '''less''' than the eye-searing yellow it currently is, Agge?  Blondeshell: Oddly enough, I never really read many comics.  Got into the genre due to all the cartoons in the 90s  —[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 03:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::Fair enough: Two different roads to the same destination. {{smile}} -- [[User:Blondeshell|Blondeshell]] 03:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::Yes, that is what I'm saying. The yellow is rather subdued and matches the comic book style well. ~ {{:User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 04:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Shrug*  In looking more, "eye-searing" was an overstatement... but I also don't think the color "blends in" either.  I have to agree with the comic part though, from what I have seen.  Oh well, I wasn't overly passionate about a change, just suggesting something I had thought of.  —[[User:Thirty7|Thirty7]] [[File:Talk-Icon.jpg|link=User talk:Thirty7]] 04:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Icons ==
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I happened to stumble over [[File:Healthbar notify mail.png|16px]] and thought it might literally be interpreted as an Ed'''Note'''.  I also played around with the idea of grey-scaling the image, a la [[File:EdNote.png|16px]] and [[File:EdLetter.png|16px]].  My only reason to alter the icon would be to increase the "subdued-ness" and "blending in" mentioned above.  As well as the fact that not all EdNotes are really OMG!! exclamation point worthy.  So, the literal note/letter might match the idea better.  *shrug*  Just idle pondering.  Any thoughts? {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 15:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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{| style="background-color: #F5F5BE; border: 1px solid #C7C38B; color: #000; margin: 0.5em 2em; {{CSSBorderRadius|10px}}"
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| style="vertical-align: top; padding: 0.25em;" | [[File:EdLetter.png|34px]] [[File:EdNote.png|34px]]
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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
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{{{note}}}
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{| style="background-color: #F5F5BE; border: 1px solid #C7C38B; color: #000; margin: 0.5em 2em; {{CSSBorderRadius|10px}}"
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| style="vertical-align: top; padding: 0.25em;" | http://paragonwiki.com/w/images//archive/8/8d/20120712025410!EdLetter.png http://paragonwiki.com/w/images//archive/6/65/20120712025349!EdNote.png
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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
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{{{note}}}
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{| style="background-color: #F5F5BE; border: 1px solid #C7C38B; color: #000; margin: 0.5em 2em; {{CSSBorderRadius|10px}}"
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| style="vertical-align: top; padding: 0.25em;" | [[File:Healthbar notify mail.png|34px]] [[File:Healthbar notify alert.png|34px]]
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| style="width:100%; padding: 0.25em;" | '''Editor's Note:'''<br />
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{{{note}}}
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::I would agree that not all EdNotes have the same level of urgency. Some are "Watch Out!" and others are "Oh, by the way." Maybe the template could be adjusted to use the exclamation point if a 'warning=' switch is used, and the letter icon would be on the regular 'note=' switch. Then we can go through and change the ones that are more urgent to use the 'warning' switch. Grayscale's fine with me. {{small|— [[File:Blondeshell Sig.png|20px|link=User:Blondeshell]] [[User_talk:Blondeshell|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Blondeshell|contribs]]}} 16:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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:: I see absolutely no reason ''not'' to use two icons, so I went ahead and implemented it using an optional type= parameter. I'm not a huge fan of the grayscale though, to me it pops out ''more'' than the colored versions and just looks weird besides. Reducing their saturation some might be okay if you really want to tone them down some, but I really don't think it's necessary. The bubble was colored in a way to match the icons, after all (or at least, I assume it was). -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 18:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::Actually, Sekoia, the icons are sort of a garish green to the pale yellow of the EdNote "bubble."  Mayhap a light yellow version of the icons instead? {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 22:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::: Silly colorblindness. :( Wouldn't hurt to mock up a yellow tinted version and see what they look like I guess. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 01:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::::Will do.  I will just upload as new versions of the greyscaled ones.  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 02:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::::Is there a way to link to an older version of a file without reverting?  That way we could do a side-by-side.  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 02:58, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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::::::Like this?  http://paragonwiki.com/w/images//archive/6/65/20120712025349!EdNote.png --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 06:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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Easier than I thought... but can it be resized?  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 13:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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: The newest ones look fine to me. They blend in well and don't jump out (to my eyes, at least). -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 16:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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::My eyes agree. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] [[File:Healthbar notify phone.png|20px|link=User talk:Eabrace]] 16:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::Nice, that makes three of us.  Going to go ahead and adjust the template accordingly...  As always, it's easy enough to revert if anyone has serious issues. {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 17:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Issue when EdNote is in dialog boxes? ==
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I was looking at [[Mission:Tip_-_A_Clever_Trap]]. I noticed that in the hero section, the EdNote that is contained within the "Officer Worker and Rikti Soldier Dialog" box has some issues. The issue only appears when the EdNote is the first thing after the text= notation within the box. See below for what I mean:
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{{NPC Text|title=Broken EdNote|text=
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{{EdNote|note=All three Office Workers have the same dialogue.}}
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'''Before Combat:'''
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:'''Office Worker:''' Look, I don't understand what you want.}}
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{{NPC Text|title=Working EdNote|text=
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'''Before Combat:'''
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{{EdNote|note=All three Office Workers have the same dialogue.}}
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:'''Office Worker:''' Look, I don't understand what you want.}}
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So that struck me as odd. I wonder if it's an issue across the board, or just for the one mission? It appears to be across the board, since I tried it with other dialog boxes in that mission. [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 15:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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: I think I fixed it. (Hopefully the fix doesn't cause unwanted side effects.) -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 16:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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:: Cool! What was the fix, if I may ask? [[User:Felderburg|Felderburg]] 16:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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::: The Hidden template was rendering its text in a div like so: <nowiki><div>{{{content}}}</div></nowiki> (with no line breaks). Wiki table markup requires that the opening <nowiki>{|</nowiki> be on a new line. So <nowiki><div>{|</nowiki> failed. Putting a line break after the div tag made it work. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 23:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:17, 19 August 2013

Color Choice

Do you suppose this should be pale green in color instead of hideous yellow to better match the Symbol we use with it? It would still be rather eye-catching, methinks:

Healthbar notify alert.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

Thirty7 Talk-Icon.jpg 18:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm colorblind, but I'm fine with changing it--looks okay to me. I'm not sure I like changing the border to black though. How about this? It's the background color darkened significantly (in HSV, I took V from 100 to 50).
Healthbar notify alert.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

-- Sekoia 18:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
I didn't care one iota about the border color... I was just too lazy to look up a HEX color that looked right. Smilies smile.gif So, that's fine by me. —Thirty7 Talk-Icon.jpg 20:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Gotta admit I'm a little blinded by the green. When we first talked about the color it was to keep it in a comic book theme. *shrug* -- Blondeshell 21:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, both of them look fine to me, so consider me as having no opinion then. :) -- Sekoia 22:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Better? Toned it down a bit. I guess I don't really get the yellow box idea from that thread. But, if folks have a strong preference not to make it match, that's cool with me.
Healthbar notify alert.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

BTW, the rounded corner thing is AWESOME!
Thirty7 Talk-Icon.jpg 23:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Ednote example.jpg -- Blondeshell 02:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't like the green. At all. EdNotes shouldn't pop out like that, they should moderately blend in. The wiki is about the documentation, not the editor's notes. ~ AGGE talk/cons 01:47, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Are you saying that the green blends in less than the eye-searing yellow it currently is, Agge? Blondeshell: Oddly enough, I never really read many comics. Got into the genre due to all the cartoons in the 90s —Thirty7 Talk-Icon.jpg 03:05, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Fair enough: Two different roads to the same destination. Smilies smile.gif -- Blondeshell 03:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that is what I'm saying. The yellow is rather subdued and matches the comic book style well. ~ AGGE talk/cons 04:01, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
*Shrug* In looking more, "eye-searing" was an overstatement... but I also don't think the color "blends in" either. I have to agree with the comic part though, from what I have seen. Oh well, I wasn't overly passionate about a change, just suggesting something I had thought of. —Thirty7 Talk-Icon.jpg 04:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Icons

I happened to stumble over Healthbar notify mail.png and thought it might literally be interpreted as an EdNote. I also played around with the idea of grey-scaling the image, a la EdNote.png and EdLetter.png. My only reason to alter the icon would be to increase the "subdued-ness" and "blending in" mentioned above. As well as the fact that not all EdNotes are really OMG!! exclamation point worthy. So, the literal note/letter might match the idea better. *shrug* Just idle pondering. Any thoughts? — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 15:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Examples:

EdLetter.png EdNote.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

20120712025410!EdLetter.png 20120712025349!EdNote.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

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Healthbar notify mail.png Healthbar notify alert.png Editor's Note:

{{{note}}}

I would agree that not all EdNotes have the same level of urgency. Some are "Watch Out!" and others are "Oh, by the way." Maybe the template could be adjusted to use the exclamation point if a 'warning=' switch is used, and the letter icon would be on the regular 'note=' switch. Then we can go through and change the ones that are more urgent to use the 'warning' switch. Grayscale's fine with me. Blondeshell Sig.png talk / contribs 16:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
I see absolutely no reason not to use two icons, so I went ahead and implemented it using an optional type= parameter. I'm not a huge fan of the grayscale though, to me it pops out more than the colored versions and just looks weird besides. Reducing their saturation some might be okay if you really want to tone them down some, but I really don't think it's necessary. The bubble was colored in a way to match the icons, after all (or at least, I assume it was). -- Sekoia 18:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Actually, Sekoia, the icons are sort of a garish green to the pale yellow of the EdNote "bubble." Mayhap a light yellow version of the icons instead? — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 22:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Silly colorblindness. :( Wouldn't hurt to mock up a yellow tinted version and see what they look like I guess. -- Sekoia 01:56, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Will do. I will just upload as new versions of the greyscaled ones. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 02:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Is there a way to link to an older version of a file without reverting? That way we could do a side-by-side. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 02:58, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Like this? 20120712025349!EdNote.png --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 06:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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Easier than I thought... but can it be resized? — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 13:05, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The newest ones look fine to me. They blend in well and don't jump out (to my eyes, at least). -- Sekoia 16:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
My eyes agree. --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 16:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Nice, that makes three of us. Going to go ahead and adjust the template accordingly... As always, it's easy enough to revert if anyone has serious issues. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 17:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Issue when EdNote is in dialog boxes?

I was looking at Mission:Tip_-_A_Clever_Trap. I noticed that in the hero section, the EdNote that is contained within the "Officer Worker and Rikti Soldier Dialog" box has some issues. The issue only appears when the EdNote is the first thing after the text= notation within the box. See below for what I mean:


So that struck me as odd. I wonder if it's an issue across the board, or just for the one mission? It appears to be across the board, since I tried it with other dialog boxes in that mission. Felderburg 15:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I think I fixed it. (Hopefully the fix doesn't cause unwanted side effects.) -- Sekoia 16:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
Cool! What was the fix, if I may ask? Felderburg 16:50, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
The Hidden template was rendering its text in a div like so: <div>{{{content}}}</div> (with no line breaks). Wiki table markup requires that the opening {| be on a new line. So <div>{| failed. Putting a line break after the div tag made it work. -- Sekoia 23:17, 19 August 2013 (UTC)