Talk:Henchmen

Effects

History:

• Qman added powers to Mastermind Powerset pages in bulleted format.
• Konoko tried in Heading format, then table format.
• Qman added power effects (damage, immob, etc).
• Now we are discussion which effects.

Test1	Tenebrous Tentacles (Minor Damage Cone, Immobilize, -Acc)
Test2	Tenebrous Tentacles (Minor Negative Cone Immob -Acc)
Test1	LRM Rocket Launcher (Superior Damage, Knockback)
Test2	LRM Rocket Launcher (Superior Lethal Knockback)

Now that I look over them I see where QMan replaced Damage with DoT which helps on space. I'm gonna play around in Henchmen--Konoko 15:10, 20 October 2006 (PDT)

I see you removed the commas and the question marks I had next to unconfirmed effects. Did you or someone else confirm that the Grave Knight sword attacks reduce defense?--QMan 17:28, 20 October 2006 (PDT)

I went pigg diving and found that nearly all Grave Knight's sword powers reduced defense, even the ones that do knockback/down--Konoko 13:44, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

Also, adding in damage types, while good for completeness, seems to make each entry too long. I thought it more prudent to put in the amount of damage, as the user could probably guess which damage type each one does. (Dark powers do negative, guns do lethal, etc) --QMan 17:48, 20 October 2006 (PDT)

Agreed I will avoid putting damage types. Exception for Zombie Vomit which does toxic?--Konoko 13:44, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

Just a reminder, abbreviations should be expanded. A person new to the game may not know what DoT, Acc, Dam, etc. is. See Help:References#Adding_in-game_text. -- StarGeek^{Talk page} 01:05, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

What if we linked DoT to DoT and made it a defenition, making the exception ONLY for Henchmen powers on Mastermind powerset pages?--Konoko 13:50, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

Well, no matter what you do, on some browser, it's going wrap (really don't see the problem with that). Some people will have bigger fonts, some smaller, some bigger screens, some smaller. Personally, I think more information is better than looking perfectly good, esp. since you won't be able to make it look perfectly good. -- StarGeek^{Talk page} 15:40, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

Well QMan is doing a much better job on the effects than I. His system works and looks good. Sorry I made you fix so many of my edits :S --Konoko 15:25, 21 October 2006 (PDT)

Sandbox

Recharge	Very Long
Minimum Level	26 (Mastermind)
Effects	Summon Lich
Basic Powers	Dark Blast
	Torrent
Equip Powers	Tenebrous Tentacles
	Life Drain
Upgrade Powers	Fearsome Stare
	Petrifying Gaze
Enhancements	Accuracy
	Damage
	Defense DeBuff
	Disorient Duration
	Endurance Reduction
	Fear Duration
	Heal
	Hold Duration
	Immobolize Duration
	Knockback Distance
	ToHit DeBuff

Recharge	Very Long
Minimum Level	26 (Mastermind)
Effects	Summon Lich
Basic Powers	Dark Blast (Moderate Damage, -Acc)
	Torrent (Cone, Knockback, Minor Damage, -Acc)
Equip Powers	Tenebrous Tentacles (Cone, Moderate DoT, Immobolize, -Acc)
	Life Drain (Minor Damage, -Acc, SelfHeal)
Upgrade Powers	Fearsome Stare (Cone, Fear, -Acc)
	Petrifying Gaze (Hold)
Enhancements	Accuracy
	Damage
	Defense DeBuff
	Disorient Duration
	Endurance Reduction
	Fear Duration
	Heal
	Hold Duration
	Immobolize Duration
	Knockback Distance
	ToHit DeBuff

Related Powers

Despite this being a redundant page, I think the information is valid as an "all-in-one" page. However, I'd like to remove reference to Gang War, as it isn't technically a Henchman-creating power - more of a Pet power (they only tag along and are non-commandable). That or make reference to the Pet powers useable by Masterminds (i.e. Dark Servant)? Kalon 02:06, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Holy crap, this page is still here?!? This page became a sandbox for comparing henchmen display methods a loooonnnggg time ago, and fell by the wayside as the final version made its way into the Mastermind powerset pages. I welcome your fresh eyes, do with this page as you see fit. --Konoko

On Gang War and related pet powers, I believe Gang War and the Necromancy primary Soul Extraction belong on this page in the Related section, for while they are not controllable, they do follow you around. I was going to exclude Dark Servant, but it's just as much a pet as Soul Extraction or the 10 Gang War members. But then do we include the Traps secondary's pets? They aren't 'sentient' like the other pets, but neither are the Robots. Not exactly food for thought. --Konoko

Thought: How 'bout we just list the powers and related pages, make it a simple "Related" section rather than a redundant re-posting. 'sides, I think there's a non-controllable pet powers article somewhere. --Konoko 02:45, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Overview

I'll try and remember to re-do the overview to include more information about henchmen and a little blurb on how to control them. --Konoko 02:38, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Demon Summoning

Needs to be incorporated into this article. I'm working on adding some more detail to the Demon Summoning page itself at the moment, some of which will need to be moved here. On that note, what basis is there for the 'descriptive' damage types listed on the pet powers, I.E. pet powers being written as Moderate, Superior, High etc? Draeth Darkstar 09:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not certain if the damage descriptions for existing articles were taken from the actual pet power short text or from the descriptions of matching AT primary/secondary powers. They should be based on the short text for the actual pet power, though.

• Cold Demonling: Base
• Cold Demonling: Enchant Demon
• Cold Demonling: Abyssal Empowerment
• Fiery Demonling: Base
• Fiery Demonling: Enchant Demon
• Fiery Demonling: Abyssal Empowerment
• Hellfire Demonling: Base
• Hellfire Demonling: Enchant Demon
• Hellfire Demonling: Abyssal Empowerment
• Hellfire Gargoyle: Base
• Hellfire Gargoyle: Enchant Demon
• Hellfire Gargoyle: Abyssal Empowerment
• Ember Demon: Base
• Ember Demon: Enchant Demon
• Ember Demon: Abyssal Empowerment
• Demon Prince: Base
• Demon Prince: Enchant Demon
• Demon Prince: Abyssal Empowerment
• Living Hellfire

--Eabrace 21:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Page Status

So... what is going on with this page? Why is it listed as a "sandbox" and not a WIP or something similar? Are we to avoid using links to here since it seems to be in some sort of limbo state? I also notice minimal has been done in terms of making it current )Demon Summoning since, well, July when Eabrace dropped the above note. I guess I just wanted to know the lowdown before I take my time to do anything here. —Thirty7 12:14, 3 January 2012 (UTC)