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== Double Day Job Locations ==
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== Coordinates ==
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If we're going to do the multi-job locations, we need coordinates. Please give coordinates below. When two other people have verified yes, we can add it to the main article. Let's START OVER, when you get double-credit locations, please LIST THE COORDINATES here, then two other people (for double-checking) will verify your results. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 02:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
  
Recently a user removed the Double Day Jobs section with a comment that he had checked the Pocket D ones and that they did not work. I have checked the Talos one today and it does still work so I think we need to try and do a bit more research to determine for sure which ones do and don't work. To that end if you have recently confirmed that one works (by logging out and checking your badge progress or powers) please post here. [[User:CmdrAdeon|CmdrAdeon]] 22:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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=== Hero Locations ===
: I've also re-confirmed the Vanguard/Monitor one [[User:CmdrAdeon|CmdrAdeon]] 23:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
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:: I logged a character out in the Vanguard hospital tonight with no progress on either Vanguard or Caregiver.  I'll try to remember to report the results back here. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 05:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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:: Update:  Just checked and Caregiver and Vanguard progress bars are now both showing 4.36% progress.  (Location {{coords|212.0|-1191.5|-2264.0}}.)
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Had to mention that Pocket D has another double day job location in the areas with the regen pods (where heroes or villians go in Pocket D when they click Go To Hospital). You can get Clubber and Care Giver/Pain Specialist badges.
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Has anyone checked the Pocket D arena yet? -- Gothenem
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[[Talos Island]]:
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* Between the Base Portal and Tram gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Monitor Duty}} and {{DayJobBadge|Commuter}}. [[Coordinates]] {{coords|x|y|z}}
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:I've done some checking in places that seemed like they might work, and the hospital areas in the following zones do NOT appear to give dual credit: Firebase Zulu, Recluse's Victory, Cimerora, and Oroborus. Interestingly in Recluse's Victory the portal that leads from the Hero's base to the main zone appears to give monitor credit, but I haven't checked to see if it gives dual credit. [[User:CmdrAdeon|CmdrAdeon]] 08:00, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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=== Villain Locations ===
  
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[[Mercy Island]]:
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* The Hospital in Fort Darwin gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Agent}} and {{DayJobBadge|Pain Specialist}}. [[Coordinates]] {{coords|x|y|z}}
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* The Arachnos Flyer at the top of Fort Darwin gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Agent}} and {{DayJobBadge|Pilot}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}}
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[[St. Martial]]:
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* The [[Black Helicopter Line|helicopter]] in the Arachnos base gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Pilot}} and {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Agent}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
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* The [[ferry]] in the Arachnos base gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Smuggler}} and {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Agent}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
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[[Grandville]]:
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* The door in the hospital area gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Official}} and {{DayJobBadge|Pain Specialist}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
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* The helicopter at the north end of Grandville gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Pilot}}, {{DayJobBadge|Smuggler}}, and {{DayJobBadge|Arachnos Official}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
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OK, let's see here....
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=== Co-Op Locations ===
  
Cimerora rez location:  nope, one job only.
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[[Pocket D]]:
Grandville: nope
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* By the Base Portal on the dance floor gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Monitor Duty}} and {{DayJobBadge|Clubber}}. [[Coordinates]] {{coords|x|y|z}}
Mercy:  Nope, not either location.
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Pocket-D: Nope.
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* The heroside Vault gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Banker}}/{{DayJobBadge|Thief}} and {{DayJobBadge|Clubber}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
Vanguard:  Nope.
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Talos:  Nope.
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* Inside the hospital area gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Caregiver}}/{{DayJobBadge|Pain Specialist}} and {{DayJobBadge|Clubber}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
 
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I tried them all, none of them work.  Sometimes it takes 15 seconds for the day job icons to switch over but they do switch.  Also, if you have the day job benifits, you'll have an icon, so it's best to test with somebody that doesn't have the job at all.  Otherwise you have to look for three icons!
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[[Rikti War Zone]]:
 
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* Inside the Vanguard Base by the Base Portal gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Monitor Duty}} and {{DayJobBadge|Vanguard Recruit}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
I did find a bug.  Villain rez station (and vault?) give the Clubber badge while the hero side gives badges for caregiver (and banker).
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* Inside the Vanguard Base's Hospital gets credit toward {{DayJobBadge|Caregiver}}/{{DayJobBadge|Pain Specialist}} and {{DayJobBadge|Vanguard Recruit}}. Coordinates {{coords|x|y|z}}
I could swear there was a patch note about cleaning these things up but I don't see it anywhere.  Maybe it was at the end of beta?
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[[Zloth]]
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::Zloth, make sure you are judging these by badge progress when you log back in, not by the icons. The icons don't really mean anything, you don't always get two icons. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 17:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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If you can't judge by the icons, then we are going to need a lot more than just telling people to use careful positioning.  Positioning where?  Anywhere along the border between the two badges?  Only in some spots along the border?  How can you tell if you are on the border or just close to it?
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Honestly, I really doubt this effect exists at all now.  The icons are just reporting what day job you will get according to your exact location.  The call to see what icon to show is very likely the same call made when you log in to award day job credit.
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--[[User:Zloth|Zloth]] 17:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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::It's not. You don't always get two icons. I am currently getting badge progress on Monitor Duty/Clubber at the base portal in Pocket D. I am only getting the icon for Monitor Duty. I'm sorry, you're wrong. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 18:01, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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That's very odd.  Hero or villain?  And at what exact location?  Because I had a hero logged out right near the base portal for over a week.  She got progress on monitor duty but clubber hadn't even started.  If you could post a /loc then I could set myself at the same spot and confirm.
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--[[User:Zloth|Zloth]] 19:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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::An easy one to confirm the double credit on is the Vanguard hospital. I get credit for Vanguard and Caregiver when logged off towards the back of the hospital area, regardless of the number of icons displayed. I've seen others say that you have to log off on the hospital steps, but my testing indicates otherwise. I've also found that the Arachnos base near the ferry in St Martial gives double credit if you log off close to the ferry or the Black Helicopter.
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::The general principle appears to be that day job locations will not exclude one another unless the devs have specifically cleaned them up - i.e. created a cut-out in the defined area for the encompassing location. The Pocket D and Grandville zone badges appear to mostly drop off when you're in another day job location (based on testing by myself and others in my SG), but there are plenty of sweet spots in Arachnos bases (for instance) that don't appear to require you to be positioned on or near the border of the two areas. [[User:Redoubt|Redoubt]] 23:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::That matches my theory. One useful trick that sometimes allows you to tell if an area might give double credit or not is to move slowly around the edge and see if you can find a gap where you get no day job icon. If you can find a blank spot then it shows that the two day jobs don't overlap. [[User:CmdrAdeon|CmdrAdeon]] 23:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Well what'd'ya know...  I just logged off standing on the sink in the back of the Vanguard base and got double credit.  In fact, I just tried it standing on the drain that's right in the center of the room and it worked. Craziness.
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So now we've got to actually explain it to people.  Where do you actually have to stand for all the double credits?
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--[[User:Zloth|Zloth]] 02:42, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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:<strike>At the base portal in Pocket D {{coords|46.3|0|-1040}}, I get double-duty. Additionally, I am managing to get both icons for once (usually I only have one icon). -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 12:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)</strike>
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:My other character isn't getting double-duty in the same spot. The character that was getting double-duty is on a server that's currently down, so I can't look in her badges and verify. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Agge]] ([[User_talk:Aggelakis|talk]]) 13:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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I did get credit for both Care Giver/Pain Specialist and Clubber in the Hero Side hospital area of Pocket D. Not sure if the villian side works. I still need to double check the portal area, the vaults and the villian side.  [[User:Gothenem|Gothenem]] 14:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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:: Well for the Talos one I find that standing on the wall between the train station and portal seems to work (although I think the overlap is bigger than that). For the two Vanguard ones the overlap seems to cover the entire area. [[User:CmdrAdeon|CmdrAdeon]] 17:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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:* Just confirmed Fort Darwin for Arachnos Agent and Pain Specialist. -- [[User:Baalus Seth|Baalus Seth]] 17:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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I thought I'd share this.  I was getting three day job icons at the helicopter on the north end of grandville, where you go for mayhem missions.  Pilot, Smuggler, and Arachnos Official.  Hope it pans out, I'm trying it out now.  --[[User:Professor Immortal|Professor Immortal]] 01:44, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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Revision as of 02:31, 12 January 2009

Coordinates

If we're going to do the multi-job locations, we need coordinates. Please give coordinates below. When two other people have verified yes, we can add it to the main article. Let's START OVER, when you get double-credit locations, please LIST THE COORDINATES here, then two other people (for double-checking) will verify your results. -- Agge (talk) 02:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Hero Locations

Talos Island:

Villain Locations

Mercy Island:

St. Martial:

Grandville:

Co-Op Locations

Pocket D:

Rikti War Zone: