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Blackmarket redirects here.  Good enough, they are different implementations of the same thing.  But IMHO we shoudl at least mention that fact here.  But there is no mention of the BM here.  I have no idea where on the red side all the BMs are.  I know there is one in Sharks, from all the discussion of the Ghost of Scrapyard's pathing right through it.  But where else are they? - [[User:Sister Leortha|Sister Leortha]] 07:08, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
 
Blackmarket redirects here.  Good enough, they are different implementations of the same thing.  But IMHO we shoudl at least mention that fact here.  But there is no mention of the BM here.  I have no idea where on the red side all the BMs are.  I know there is one in Sharks, from all the discussion of the Ghost of Scrapyard's pathing right through it.  But where else are they? - [[User:Sister Leortha|Sister Leortha]] 07:08, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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: I haven't actually tested out the Black Market any yet. How much does it differ from Wentworth's? The tentatitive patch notes call both "Consignment Markets", do you think we should rename this article to that and cover both together, or should we eventually create a separate Black Market article and treat them both separately? Or something else? -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 18:33, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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::I'd like to see Black Market have its own article, at least to explain where they are and link to Wentworth's if necessary. - [[User:Snorii|Snorii]] 11:09, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
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::: o,o I was thinking that we should make one too, and of course, we're kinda lacking in a nice picture of each establishment.. --[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 14:21, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
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: I split most of the article to [[Consignment House]], then updated and expanded it some to cover the functionality in a hero/villain-neutral way (hopefully). I created [[Black Market]], and made it and this article both contain the speech given by the info person plus a mention as to where the locations are for the CH's. At some point, I'm going to try to update the two articles to give a better listing of where the CH's are located in each of the zones, similar to [[Vault Reserve]]. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 17:35, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
  
 
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I'll probably wait for live to jump on with my villain; my test activity has been fairly hero-centric.  --[[User:Colonel Jasmine|Colonel Jasmine]] 09:22, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
 
I'll probably wait for live to jump on with my villain; my test activity has been fairly hero-centric.  --[[User:Colonel Jasmine|Colonel Jasmine]] 09:22, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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==Actually, nearly done==
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o.o article was missing a listing of the taxes charged the player for selling things. I'm not so great with wikitables, so I'll post the numbers below here and if someone who's better wants to, they can make the tables for this.. If not, I'll have a go at it after I have some food for my poor empty stomach.
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start range - stop range = amount charged for range (or set of amounts that range has in it)
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1 - 119 = $5<br />
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120 - 139 = $6<br />
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140 - 159 = $7<br />
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160 - 179 = $8<br />
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180 - 199 = $9<br />
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200 - 219 = $10<br />
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220 - 239 = $11<br />
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240 - 259 = $12<br />
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260 - 279 = $13<br />
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280 - 299 = $14<br />
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300 - 399 = $15-$19<br />
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400 - 499 = $20-$24<br />
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500 - 599 = $25-$29<br />
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600 - 699 = $30-$34<br />
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700 - 799 = $35-$39<br />
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800 - 899 = $40-$44<br />
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900 - 999 = $45-$49<br />
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1000 - 1099 = $50-$54<br />
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1100 - 1999 = $55-$99<br />
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2000 - 2999 = $100-$149<br />
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3000 - 3999 = $150-$199<br />
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4000 - 4999 = $200-$249<br />
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5000 - 5999 = $250-$299<br />
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6000 - 6999 = $300-$349<br />
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7000 - 7999 = $350-$399<br />
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8000 - 8999 = $400-$449<br />
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9000 - 9999 = $450-$499<br />
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10000 - 19999 = $500-$999<br />
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20000 - 29999 = $1000-$1499<br />
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30000 - 39999 = $1500-$1999<br />
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40000 - 49999 = $2000-$2499<br />
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50000 - 59999 = $2500-$2999<br />
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60000 - 69999 = $3000-$3499<br />
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70000 - 79999 = $3500-$3999<br />
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80000 - 89999 = $4000-$4499<br />
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90000 - 99999 = $4500-$4999<br />
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100000 - 199999 = $5000-$9999<br />
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200000 - 299999 = $10000-$14999<br />
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300000 - 399999 = $15000-$19999<br />
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400000 - 499999 = $20000-$24999<br />
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500000 - 1000000 = $25000-$50000<br />
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o.o and there you have it, the charges follow the same pattern over and over so I took shortcuts on what to show and did the charges for listing amounts 1-1mill. I doubt anyone will see anything higher than that after the first week of i9. --[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 14:18, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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: I just added a table based on your data. ^^ -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 18:48, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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:: =^^= thanks! --[[User:Sleepykitty|Sleepy Kitty]] 23:44, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
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::: The in-game explanation says that the fees are all percentage based -- 5% listing and 10% transaction. But, when you get charged the transaction fee, it refunds the listing fee. Since they're both percentages, do we really need a table for them? I also think it might confuse people, because they'll never see the transaction fee amount as what they get charged since the listing fee is subtracted from it. And we can't account for the listing fee in the table since the list price can be drastically different than the sell price. What do you think? I removed it when I rewrote the page, but we can add it back in if you think it's worthwhile to keep. ^^ (The fees and stuff are now located on [[Consignment House]] but I'm asking here since this is where we were talking about it before... o.o). -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 17:35, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
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== Possible Origins of Name Choice ==
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I don't know where to put this in the actual page, so I'll leave it here and let others determine if it's valid at all. I was recently reading about old movie serials from the early days of motion pictures, cuz I'm a nerd. There's one called The Spider's Web (1938) and its sequel The Spider Returns (1941) which features a character named Richard Wentworth who is secretly a crimefighter named The Spider. Maybe it's nothing, but I find it very curious that The Black Market and WentWorth's are (as far as I know) pretty much the same thing, and Lord Recluse has the whole arachnid theme going. I can't find anywhere in game who runs WentWorth's. It seems to be a mystery. I think this is a clue that it's secretly being run by Recluse. Or at the very least, it's an injoke with the developers. If this is common knowledge and I'm one of the last to know, should we put it on the page somewhere so others like me don't feel like idiots when we figure it out? If I'm actually the first to know, can I like, get a t-shirt or something? Hee! [[User:ZachsMind|ZachsMind]] 08:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:19, 31 December 2008

Blackmarket redirects here. Good enough, they are different implementations of the same thing. But IMHO we shoudl at least mention that fact here. But there is no mention of the BM here. I have no idea where on the red side all the BMs are. I know there is one in Sharks, from all the discussion of the Ghost of Scrapyard's pathing right through it. But where else are they? - Sister Leortha 07:08, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

I haven't actually tested out the Black Market any yet. How much does it differ from Wentworth's? The tentatitive patch notes call both "Consignment Markets", do you think we should rename this article to that and cover both together, or should we eventually create a separate Black Market article and treat them both separately? Or something else? -- Sekoia 18:33, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
I'd like to see Black Market have its own article, at least to explain where they are and link to Wentworth's if necessary. - Snorii 11:09, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
o,o I was thinking that we should make one too, and of course, we're kinda lacking in a nice picture of each establishment.. --Sleepy Kitty 14:21, 1 May 2007 (PDT)
I split most of the article to Consignment House, then updated and expanded it some to cover the functionality in a hero/villain-neutral way (hopefully). I created Black Market, and made it and this article both contain the speech given by the info person plus a mention as to where the locations are for the CH's. At some point, I'm going to try to update the two articles to give a better listing of where the CH's are located in each of the zones, similar to Vault Reserve. -- Sekoia 17:35, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

done

I'll probably wait for live to jump on with my villain; my test activity has been fairly hero-centric. --Colonel Jasmine 09:22, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

Actually, nearly done

o.o article was missing a listing of the taxes charged the player for selling things. I'm not so great with wikitables, so I'll post the numbers below here and if someone who's better wants to, they can make the tables for this.. If not, I'll have a go at it after I have some food for my poor empty stomach.

start range - stop range = amount charged for range (or set of amounts that range has in it)

1 - 119 = $5
120 - 139 = $6
140 - 159 = $7
160 - 179 = $8
180 - 199 = $9
200 - 219 = $10
220 - 239 = $11
240 - 259 = $12
260 - 279 = $13
280 - 299 = $14
300 - 399 = $15-$19
400 - 499 = $20-$24
500 - 599 = $25-$29
600 - 699 = $30-$34
700 - 799 = $35-$39
800 - 899 = $40-$44
900 - 999 = $45-$49
1000 - 1099 = $50-$54
1100 - 1999 = $55-$99
2000 - 2999 = $100-$149
3000 - 3999 = $150-$199
4000 - 4999 = $200-$249
5000 - 5999 = $250-$299
6000 - 6999 = $300-$349
7000 - 7999 = $350-$399
8000 - 8999 = $400-$449
9000 - 9999 = $450-$499
10000 - 19999 = $500-$999
20000 - 29999 = $1000-$1499
30000 - 39999 = $1500-$1999
40000 - 49999 = $2000-$2499
50000 - 59999 = $2500-$2999
60000 - 69999 = $3000-$3499
70000 - 79999 = $3500-$3999
80000 - 89999 = $4000-$4499
90000 - 99999 = $4500-$4999
100000 - 199999 = $5000-$9999
200000 - 299999 = $10000-$14999
300000 - 399999 = $15000-$19999
400000 - 499999 = $20000-$24999
500000 - 1000000 = $25000-$50000

o.o and there you have it, the charges follow the same pattern over and over so I took shortcuts on what to show and did the charges for listing amounts 1-1mill. I doubt anyone will see anything higher than that after the first week of i9. --Sleepy Kitty 14:18, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

I just added a table based on your data. ^^ -- Sekoia 18:48, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
=^^= thanks! --Sleepy Kitty 23:44, 30 April 2007 (PDT)
The in-game explanation says that the fees are all percentage based -- 5% listing and 10% transaction. But, when you get charged the transaction fee, it refunds the listing fee. Since they're both percentages, do we really need a table for them? I also think it might confuse people, because they'll never see the transaction fee amount as what they get charged since the listing fee is subtracted from it. And we can't account for the listing fee in the table since the list price can be drastically different than the sell price. What do you think? I removed it when I rewrote the page, but we can add it back in if you think it's worthwhile to keep. ^^ (The fees and stuff are now located on Consignment House but I'm asking here since this is where we were talking about it before... o.o). -- Sekoia 17:35, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

Possible Origins of Name Choice

I don't know where to put this in the actual page, so I'll leave it here and let others determine if it's valid at all. I was recently reading about old movie serials from the early days of motion pictures, cuz I'm a nerd. There's one called The Spider's Web (1938) and its sequel The Spider Returns (1941) which features a character named Richard Wentworth who is secretly a crimefighter named The Spider. Maybe it's nothing, but I find it very curious that The Black Market and WentWorth's are (as far as I know) pretty much the same thing, and Lord Recluse has the whole arachnid theme going. I can't find anywhere in game who runs WentWorth's. It seems to be a mystery. I think this is a clue that it's secretly being run by Recluse. Or at the very least, it's an injoke with the developers. If this is common knowledge and I'm one of the last to know, should we put it on the page somewhere so others like me don't feel like idiots when we figure it out? If I'm actually the first to know, can I like, get a t-shirt or something? Hee! ZachsMind 08:19, 31 December 2008 (UTC)