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Does anyone think it would be worthwhile, considering the volume of Trials and how they all seem to be "in order" both in terms of story and chronology that it would make sense to add a "Preceded by:" and a "Followed by:" section to this Infobox?  That way folks could easily link among the different trials ONE, and TWO they could tell in what order each one exists in terms of story. {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 15:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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Does anyone think it would be worthwhile, considering the volume of Trials and how they all seem to be "in order" both in terms of story and chronology, that it would make sense to add a "Preceded by:" and a "Followed by:" section to this Infobox?  That way folks could easily link among the different trials ONE, and TWO they could tell in what order each one exists in terms of story. {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 15:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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:Not all of them work that way, though. For example, [[Dilemma Diabolique Trial]] is technically preceded by [[Dark Astoria]]. ~ {{User:Aggelakis/Sig1}} 17:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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::Yes, there is that one exception.  Why couldn't DD just say "Preceded by:[[Dark Astoria]]'s Story Arcs"?  And then have... MoM say "Followed by:[[Dark Astoria]]'s Story Arcs" or something like that. {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 17:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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: At present, the Trials contain very little story information. Unlike mission articles, they do not include the spoken NPC text. They also do not contain much information about what happens plotwise on the trial. All of the articles are written nearly exclusively from a gameplay perspective: the tasks you need to accomplish and the rewards you get for doing so. So to me, it'd be bit odd to have the sort of linkage you suggest, because none of the articles seem to contain the kinds of information that the chronology would refer to.
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: In any case, I would suggest that it could be more helpful to have an <nowiki>{{Navbox Incarnate Trials}}</nowiki>. I doubt we'd include the chronology in that, but it would allow you to navigate between them more easily which would be immensely helpful. This would continue to be useful even when they add non-Praetorian Trials.
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: If you want to link them together chronologically based on story, I would suggest a separate template for that. Perhaps <nowiki>{{Navbox Praetorian Invasion Storyline}}</nowiki> or something. It can then list each of the story parts, including incarnate trials, missions (which isn't limited to Dark Astoria, other contacts like [[Maria Jenkins]] could be included), or even Task Forces (such as possibly [[Admiral Sutter Task Force]], [[Apex Task Force]], and [[Tin Mage Mark II Task Force]]) and place all of them in the appropriate order. I'm not sure what the best format would be for something like that though. -- [[User:Sekoia|Sekoia]] 21:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
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::I am afraid I have to agree with ya.  The Navbox thing is a good idea methinks.  I will definitely continue to think about that second suggestion... and possibly even ways to work in more storyline information into the Trial articles, because... like missions and TFs they definitely have some.  And, now that you mention it, it does seem odd not to include any of it.  {{User:Thirty7/Sig}} 02:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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Team Size

Argghhh. I can't figure out how to make Team Size show "{{red|Missing Team Size}}" when team size is not listed. Aarhghhghhghhhh. ~ AGGE talk/cons 21:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

How's that? --Eabrace Healthbar notify phone.png 23:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Yaaaay, it works! ~ AGGE talk/cons 01:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

New Section?

Does anyone think it would be worthwhile, considering the volume of Trials and how they all seem to be "in order" both in terms of story and chronology, that it would make sense to add a "Preceded by:" and a "Followed by:" section to this Infobox? That way folks could easily link among the different trials ONE, and TWO they could tell in what order each one exists in terms of story. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 15:40, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Not all of them work that way, though. For example, Dilemma Diabolique Trial is technically preceded by Dark Astoria. ~ AGGE talk/cons 17:19, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, there is that one exception. Why couldn't DD just say "Preceded by:Dark Astoria's Story Arcs"? And then have... MoM say "Followed by:Dark Astoria's Story Arcs" or something like that. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 17:52, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
At present, the Trials contain very little story information. Unlike mission articles, they do not include the spoken NPC text. They also do not contain much information about what happens plotwise on the trial. All of the articles are written nearly exclusively from a gameplay perspective: the tasks you need to accomplish and the rewards you get for doing so. So to me, it'd be bit odd to have the sort of linkage you suggest, because none of the articles seem to contain the kinds of information that the chronology would refer to.
In any case, I would suggest that it could be more helpful to have an {{Navbox Incarnate Trials}}. I doubt we'd include the chronology in that, but it would allow you to navigate between them more easily which would be immensely helpful. This would continue to be useful even when they add non-Praetorian Trials.
If you want to link them together chronologically based on story, I would suggest a separate template for that. Perhaps {{Navbox Praetorian Invasion Storyline}} or something. It can then list each of the story parts, including incarnate trials, missions (which isn't limited to Dark Astoria, other contacts like Maria Jenkins could be included), or even Task Forces (such as possibly Admiral Sutter Task Force, Apex Task Force, and Tin Mage Mark II Task Force) and place all of them in the appropriate order. I'm not sure what the best format would be for something like that though. -- Sekoia 21:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
I am afraid I have to agree with ya. The Navbox thing is a good idea methinks. I will definitely continue to think about that second suggestion... and possibly even ways to work in more storyline information into the Trial articles, because... like missions and TFs they definitely have some. And, now that you mention it, it does seem odd not to include any of it. — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont 02:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)