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: Yellow is skipped for readability reasons.  Yellow text would be quite hard to read in many cases.  Purple is reused at levels 6 and 7, neither of which are actually in use in any I9 sets.  So that's a duplication issue that I put off until a future date when they actually get used.  As for them being on their own page, the [[Invention Origin Enhancement Sets]] page is quite large with the tables that it does have.  I made a judgment call when splitting up the enormous [[Invention Origin Enhancements]] page to split it into three pages instead of just two.  So there is the logic behind these decisions.  :) - [[User:Sister Leortha|Sister Leortha]] 14:48, 18 April 2007 (PDT)
 
: Yellow is skipped for readability reasons.  Yellow text would be quite hard to read in many cases.  Purple is reused at levels 6 and 7, neither of which are actually in use in any I9 sets.  So that's a duplication issue that I put off until a future date when they actually get used.  As for them being on their own page, the [[Invention Origin Enhancement Sets]] page is quite large with the tables that it does have.  I made a judgment call when splitting up the enormous [[Invention Origin Enhancements]] page to split it into three pages instead of just two.  So there is the logic behind these decisions.  :) - [[User:Sister Leortha|Sister Leortha]] 14:48, 18 April 2007 (PDT)
 
:: OK, I can see the yellow/orange thing now.  I was thinking that a dark yellow would work, but it doesn't. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 12:09, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 
:: OK, I can see the yellow/orange thing now.  I was thinking that a dark yellow would work, but it doesn't. --[[User:Lin Chiao Feng|Lin Chiao Feng]] 12:09, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
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== Effects of Exemplaring ==
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I've read multiple conflicting descriptions of how set bonuses work when exemplared.  Things are further confused by some IOs having benefits treated as "set bonuses", which confuses me more, because my understanding of at what levels a set bonus is received does not jive with how people describe to me the levels a "set bonus" IO is received.  If someone could expand this article with correct information I would be much obliged.
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My current understanding is IOs that have a time limit to their benefit or have a chance of activating always work (as long as you have the power they're in) and when the benefit is not explicit in the description, have a benefit scaling to your combat level.
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Otherwise, IOs with global benefits (such as Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Recharge Speed) function no lower than at the IO's level -3.  This is usually described to me as "being like a set bonus".  I'm confused about whether Gift of the Ancients is included in these, but I figure it probably is.
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Finally, my current understanding of set bonuses is that the lowest level they can be obtained is the lowest level of the set -3, regardless of the levels of the IOs actually used.
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Apparently this understanding is mistaken and I'd appreciate corrections.  --[[User:Professor Immortal|Professor Immortal]] 12:06, 9 November 2007 (EST)

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You say this follows the con system, but purple shopws up twice (ambiguous), and you skipped yellow. Also, I have no idea why this table isn't on the Invention Origin Enhancement Sets page. --Lin Chiao Feng 13:20, 18 April 2007 (PDT)

Yellow is skipped for readability reasons. Yellow text would be quite hard to read in many cases. Purple is reused at levels 6 and 7, neither of which are actually in use in any I9 sets. So that's a duplication issue that I put off until a future date when they actually get used. As for them being on their own page, the Invention Origin Enhancement Sets page is quite large with the tables that it does have. I made a judgment call when splitting up the enormous Invention Origin Enhancements page to split it into three pages instead of just two. So there is the logic behind these decisions.  :) - Sister Leortha 14:48, 18 April 2007 (PDT)
OK, I can see the yellow/orange thing now. I was thinking that a dark yellow would work, but it doesn't. --Lin Chiao Feng 12:09, 19 April 2007 (PDT)

Effects of Exemplaring

I've read multiple conflicting descriptions of how set bonuses work when exemplared. Things are further confused by some IOs having benefits treated as "set bonuses", which confuses me more, because my understanding of at what levels a set bonus is received does not jive with how people describe to me the levels a "set bonus" IO is received. If someone could expand this article with correct information I would be much obliged.

My current understanding is IOs that have a time limit to their benefit or have a chance of activating always work (as long as you have the power they're in) and when the benefit is not explicit in the description, have a benefit scaling to your combat level.

Otherwise, IOs with global benefits (such as Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Recharge Speed) function no lower than at the IO's level -3. This is usually described to me as "being like a set bonus". I'm confused about whether Gift of the Ancients is included in these, but I figure it probably is.

Finally, my current understanding of set bonuses is that the lowest level they can be obtained is the lowest level of the set -3, regardless of the levels of the IOs actually used.

Apparently this understanding is mistaken and I'd appreciate corrections. --Professor Immortal 12:06, 9 November 2007 (EST)