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== Icons == | == Icons == | ||
"Dull Pain" heal/+HP-with-a-duration icon, in an auto? ([[Invulnerability#Dull Pain|DP]] vs [[Willpower#High Pain Tolerance|HPT]]!) "Build Up" self-buff icon in an enemy-effecting toggle? ([[Fire Manipulation#Build Up|BU]] vs [[Fire Manipulation#Blazing Aura|Blazing Aura]]!) *slaps the devs* -- [[User:Aggelakis|Aggelakis]] 22:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC) | "Dull Pain" heal/+HP-with-a-duration icon, in an auto? ([[Invulnerability#Dull Pain|DP]] vs [[Willpower#High Pain Tolerance|HPT]]!) "Build Up" self-buff icon in an enemy-effecting toggle? ([[Fire Manipulation#Build Up|BU]] vs [[Fire Manipulation#Blazing Aura|Blazing Aura]]!) *slaps the devs* -- [[User:Aggelakis|Aggelakis]] 22:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :From the (obviously) limited info we have so far, it appears that HPT is actually just a +HP without a heal. The toggle (likely the taunt aura of the set) is probably similar to Invincibility in that it's front loaded and offers increased damage only while you have foes in melee. I'm sure there's balancing to be done. :) --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 00:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | ::Can't say as I agree with your assessment there. I am talking about the ICONS. They are using the wrong DETAILS to describe what's going on with the powers. | ||
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| + | ::[[Image:Invulnerability_DullPain.png|25px]] Dull Pain: Clickie. | ||
| + | ::[[Image:Willpower_HighPainTolerance.png|25px]] High Pain Tolerance: Auto. | ||
| + | ::*[[image:ShieldDefense_TrueGrit.png|25px]] True Grit: Auto. | ||
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| + | ::[[Image:FireManipulation_BuildUp.png|25px]] Build Up: clickie, buffs self. | ||
| + | ::[[Image:Willpower_RiseToTheChallenge.png|25px]] Rise to the Challenge: toggle, buffs self, debuffs enemies. | ||
| + | ::*[[Image:ShieldDefense_AgainstAllOdds.png|25px]] Against All Odds: toggle, buffs self, debuffs enemies. | ||
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| + | ::On further review, I can accept AAO's current icon (the premise is similar to RttC's, even though both do not indicate they also affect enemies), but I simply cannot accept TG's. That icon is +HP-with-a-duration (clock behind the plus sign). TG is an auto. The clock needs to be removed, as there is no duration on an auto :p It's too bad I am not in closed beta to /bug it on test. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Aggelakis]] 00:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::The devs left a lot of work-in-progress remnants in those icons. Check the filenames to see how well they line up with the power names. (-: | ||
| + | :::Other than that, they probably had a Dull Pain-esque power in mind during testing, and decided to make it more like Willpower's High Pain Tolerance instead and never changed the icon. It sucks, yes, but there are a LOT of icons in the game with the wrong overlays. You just get used to it after a while. --[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] 01:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | == IO Sets == | ||
| + | Since we know what enhancements can be slotted in each power, any objections to best-guessing the IO sets? Or should we just wait until open beta? (Skipping for now.) --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 20:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | :Let's go ahead and wait just in case there's an oddball thrown in there. --[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] 21:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::Went ahead and took a best guess at the sets on this and Pain Domination. I figured I might as well put something in there now since I'm in the process of bringing everything up to speed with I12. I can try to finalize the info when I get to adding in new IO sets (Accurate Healing, etc.) for I13 on the next pass. --[[User:Eabrace|Eabrace]] 19:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | == Levels == | ||
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| + | Couldn't help noticing that the levels at which you aquire the powers are inconsistent across the page. Anyone got the correct numbers? --[[User:Shalriek|Shalriek]] 15:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :The numbers in the box at the top were correct. Fixed the detailed text. -- [[User:Aggelakis|Aggelakis]] 16:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 19:38, 4 December 2008
Icons
"Dull Pain" heal/+HP-with-a-duration icon, in an auto? (DP vs HPT!) "Build Up" self-buff icon in an enemy-effecting toggle? (BU vs Blazing Aura!) *slaps the devs* -- Aggelakis 22:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
- From the (obviously) limited info we have so far, it appears that HPT is actually just a +HP without a heal. The toggle (likely the taunt aura of the set) is probably similar to Invincibility in that it's front loaded and offers increased damage only while you have foes in melee. I'm sure there's balancing to be done. :) --Eabrace 00:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Can't say as I agree with your assessment there. I am talking about the ICONS. They are using the wrong DETAILS to describe what's going on with the powers.
Dull Pain: Clickie.
High Pain Tolerance: Auto.
True Grit: Auto.
Build Up: clickie, buffs self.
Rise to the Challenge: toggle, buffs self, debuffs enemies.
Against All Odds: toggle, buffs self, debuffs enemies.
- On further review, I can accept AAO's current icon (the premise is similar to RttC's, even though both do not indicate they also affect enemies), but I simply cannot accept TG's. That icon is +HP-with-a-duration (clock behind the plus sign). TG is an auto. The clock needs to be removed, as there is no duration on an auto :p It's too bad I am not in closed beta to /bug it on test. -- Aggelakis 00:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- The devs left a lot of work-in-progress remnants in those icons. Check the filenames to see how well they line up with the power names. (-:
- Other than that, they probably had a Dull Pain-esque power in mind during testing, and decided to make it more like Willpower's High Pain Tolerance instead and never changed the icon. It sucks, yes, but there are a LOT of icons in the game with the wrong overlays. You just get used to it after a while. --GuyPerfect 01:22, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- On further review, I can accept AAO's current icon (the premise is similar to RttC's, even though both do not indicate they also affect enemies), but I simply cannot accept TG's. That icon is +HP-with-a-duration (clock behind the plus sign). TG is an auto. The clock needs to be removed, as there is no duration on an auto :p It's too bad I am not in closed beta to /bug it on test. -- Aggelakis 00:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
IO Sets
Since we know what enhancements can be slotted in each power, any objections to best-guessing the IO sets? Or should we just wait until open beta? (Skipping for now.) --Eabrace 20:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Let's go ahead and wait just in case there's an oddball thrown in there. --GuyPerfect 21:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- Went ahead and took a best guess at the sets on this and Pain Domination. I figured I might as well put something in there now since I'm in the process of bringing everything up to speed with I12. I can try to finalize the info when I get to adding in new IO sets (Accurate Healing, etc.) for I13 on the next pass. --Eabrace 19:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Levels
Couldn't help noticing that the levels at which you aquire the powers are inconsistent across the page. Anyone got the correct numbers? --Shalriek 15:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- The numbers in the box at the top were correct. Fixed the detailed text. -- Aggelakis 16:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
