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==Hierarchy==
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Symbols have a hierarchy. If a power does damage and has a mez effect, the mez icon would be used.
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If one effect of a power is much stronger than the other, the primary effect's icon is used. Frozen Armor provides defense and resistance, but the primary effect of the power is to provide defense. The defense symbol is used.
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Control trumps buff/debuff trumps resist/defense trumps damage.
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There are a couple of specific things that trump one another in the same general category.
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Compound symbols (see below) trump standard icons.
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Hold trumps disorient trumps sleep trumps immobilize.
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Increase recharge speed (Hasten) trumps increase run speed (Swift).
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Running trumps jumping trumps flying.
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Healing trumps endurance.
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Defense trumps resistance.
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Damage trumps accuracy if the power's effect is equal.
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Knockback/up/down sometimes trumps other control powers even when it is not the strongest effect. 
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==Compound Symbols==
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A few of the symbols used in power icons are combinations of two or more icon graphics. Some of the best examples of this are the power icons for Unchain Essence (defeated plus damage), Invincibility (defense plus accuracy/to hit plus buff) and Shiver (slow recharge plus slow movement). Many, many of the powers currently in the game could use compound icons to replace the current graphic. For example, Dark Extraction could use the defeated plus single pet summon icon. Stygian Circle could use the defeated plus heal buff icon.
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{|class="wikitable"
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|-
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!Icon<br />Type
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!Icon<br />Example
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!Notes
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|-
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|Buff, Accuracy
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Accuracy.png]]
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|Persistent [[accuracy]] or [[ToHit|tohit]] buff.
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|-
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|Buff, Range
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Buff, Mulitple
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Confusion
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Confusion_Duration.png]]
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|[[Confuse]] control effect.
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|-
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|Damage
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Damage.png]]
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|[[Damage]] power.
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|-
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|Damage Over Time
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Minor Melee
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Moderate Melee
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Heavy Melee
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Superior Melee
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Elemental Weapon
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Heavy Elemental Weapon
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Assassin's Strike
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Damage, Chaining
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Buff, Defense
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Defense Buff.png]]
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|Persistent [[defense]] buff.
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|-
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|Debuff, Defense
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Defense_DeBuff.png]]
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|Persistent [[defense]] debuff.
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|-
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|Fear
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Fear_Duration.png]]
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|[[Fear]] control effect.
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|-
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|Form Shift
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Power that shifts form.
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|Fly
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Flight_Speed.png]]
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|[[Travel Powers|Flight]] related power.
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|-
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|Instant Heal
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Heal.png]]
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|[[Healing]] buff.
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|-
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|Hold
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Hold_Duration.png]]
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|[[Hold]] control effect.
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|-
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|Immobilization
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Immobilization_Duration.png]]
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|[[Immobilize|Immobilization]] control effect.
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|-
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|Intangibility
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Intangibility_Duration.png]]
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|[[Intangibility]] related power.
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|-
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|Jump Distance
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Jump.png]]
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|[[Travel Powers|jump]] distance related power.
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|-
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|Jump Height
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|Knockback
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|[[Image:TO_Training_KnockBack_Distance.png]]
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|[[Knockback]] related power.
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|-
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|Knockup
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|[[Knockup]] related power.
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|-
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|Knockdown
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|[[Knockdown]] related power.
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|-
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|Ranged Damage, Minor or Moderate
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Range.png]]
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|Ranged Damage power that has a recharge of fast, but not very fast.
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|Ranged Damage, Minor
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Ranged Damage, Heavy
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Sniper Attack
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Short Ranged Damage
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Effect Over Time
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Attack_Rate.png]]
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|A power that has an effect over a period of time.
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|Endurance
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Endurance_Modification.png]]
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|[[Endurance]] related power.
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|-
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|Placate
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Placate related power.
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|Resistance
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Damage_Resistance.png]]
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|[[Resistance|Damage resistance]] related power.
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|Smashing/Lethal Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Fire/Cold Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Cold Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Energy/Negative Energy Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Energy Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Negative Energy Resistance
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|Run Speed
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Running_Speed.png]]
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|Increases the [[Travel Powers|run]] speed of a power.
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|Sleep
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Sleep_Duration.png]]
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|[[Sleep]] control effect.
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|Slow Movement
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Slow_powers.png]]
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|[[Slow|Movement-slowing]] power.
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|Slow Recharge
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Slow Movement and Recharge
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Stun
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Disorient_Duration.png]]
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|[[Disorient]] control effect.
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|Summon One Ally
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Summons one pet or henchman.
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|Summon Two Allies
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Summons two pets or henchmen.
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|Summon Three Allies
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|Summons three pets or henchmen.
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|Teleportation, Self
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Teleportation, Group
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Teleportation, Target
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|[[Image:.png]]
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|.
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|-
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|Taunt
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|[[Image:TO_Training_Taunt_Effectiveness.png]]
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|[[Taunt]] related power.
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|}
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[[Category:]]
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I got in the mood to figure stuff out about power icons after looking at your stuff Vanden. The borders of the power icons seem to be fairly consistent with only a few divergences, most or all of which I believe you've caught.
 
  
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I started looking at the interior symbol of the power icons and reasoning out what each meant and the paradigm coh is using for power icon inner symbols. I started a paragonwiki page here. The more I keep looking at these symbols, the more I understand the paradigm and am able to see which icons are 'broken'.
 
  
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Consider this a mini-guide to what I've been figuring out.
 
  
 
Icons Explained.
 
Icons Explained.
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Form icons: Icons should be used when you actually shift forms. Kheldian Nova and Dwarf powers use this icon. IMO, Granite should use this as well.
 
Form icons: Icons should be used when you actually shift forms. Kheldian Nova and Dwarf powers use this icon. IMO, Granite should use this as well.
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Hierarchy
 
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Symbols have a hierarchy. For example, if a power does damage and has a mez effect, the mez icon will be used.
 
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Mez trumps buff/debuff trumps resist/defense trumps damage.
 
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If one effect of a power is much stronger than the other, the primary effects icon is used. Frozen Armor provides defense and resistance, but the primary effect of the power is to provide defense. Defense symbol is used.
 
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There are a couple of specific things that trump one another in the same category. For example, increase recharge speed (Hasten) trumps increase run speed (Swift). Healing trumps endurance. Damage trumps accuracy if the power's effect is equal. Defense trumps resistance. Hold trumps disorient trumps sleep trumps immobilize. Knockback/up/down sometimes trumps other control powers even when it is not the strongest effect. Running trumps jumping trumps flying. Compound symbols (see below) trump standard icons.
 
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Compound symbols
 
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A few of the symbols used in power icons are combinations of two or more icon graphics. Some of the best examples of this are the power icons for Unchain Essense (defeated plus damage), Invincibility (defense plus accuracy/to hit plus buff) and Shiver (slow recharge plus slow movement). Many, many of the powers currently in the game could use compound icons to replace the current graphic. For example, Dark Extraction could use the defeated plus single pet summon icon. Stygian Circle could use the defeated plus heal buff icon.
 
  
 
New Icons Needed
 
New Icons Needed
 
In thinking about this, I found the game really, really needs some additional icons not currently used but are consistent with existing iconography. Flavored defense and resistance debuffs are desperately needed, imo.
 
In thinking about this, I found the game really, really needs some additional icons not currently used but are consistent with existing iconography. Flavored defense and resistance debuffs are desperately needed, imo.

Revision as of 06:08, 14 November 2008

Hierarchy

Symbols have a hierarchy. If a power does damage and has a mez effect, the mez icon would be used.


If one effect of a power is much stronger than the other, the primary effect's icon is used. Frozen Armor provides defense and resistance, but the primary effect of the power is to provide defense. The defense symbol is used.


Control trumps buff/debuff trumps resist/defense trumps damage.


There are a couple of specific things that trump one another in the same general category.

Compound symbols (see below) trump standard icons.

Hold trumps disorient trumps sleep trumps immobilize.

Increase recharge speed (Hasten) trumps increase run speed (Swift).

Running trumps jumping trumps flying.

Healing trumps endurance.

Defense trumps resistance.

Damage trumps accuracy if the power's effect is equal.

Knockback/up/down sometimes trumps other control powers even when it is not the strongest effect.


Compound Symbols

A few of the symbols used in power icons are combinations of two or more icon graphics. Some of the best examples of this are the power icons for Unchain Essence (defeated plus damage), Invincibility (defense plus accuracy/to hit plus buff) and Shiver (slow recharge plus slow movement). Many, many of the powers currently in the game could use compound icons to replace the current graphic. For example, Dark Extraction could use the defeated plus single pet summon icon. Stygian Circle could use the defeated plus heal buff icon.


Icon
Type 		Icon
Example 		Notes
Buff, Accuracy TO Training Accuracy.png Persistent accuracy or tohit buff.
Buff, Range File:.png .
Buff, Mulitple File:.png .
Confusion TO Training Confusion Duration.png Confuse control effect.
Damage TO Training Damage.png Damage power.
Damage Over Time File:.png .
Damage, Minor Melee File:.png .
Damage, Moderate Melee File:.png .
Damage, Heavy Melee File:.png .
Damage, Superior Melee File:.png .
Damage, Elemental Weapon File:.png .
Damage, Heavy Elemental Weapon File:.png .
Damage, Assassin's Strike File:.png .
Damage, Chaining File:.png .
Buff, Defense TO Training Defense Buff.png Persistent defense buff.
Debuff, Defense TO Training Defense DeBuff.png Persistent defense debuff.
Fear TO Training Fear Duration.png Fear control effect.
Form Shift File:.png Power that shifts form.
Fly TO Training Flight Speed.png Flight related power.
Instant Heal TO Training Heal.png Healing buff.
Hold TO Training Hold Duration.png Hold control effect.
Immobilization TO Training Immobilization Duration.png Immobilization control effect.
Intangibility TO Training Intangibility Duration.png Intangibility related power.
Jump Distance TO Training Jump.png jump distance related power.
Jump Height File:.png .
Knockback TO Training KnockBack Distance.png Knockback related power.
Knockup File:.png Knockup related power.
Knockdown File:.png Knockdown related power.
Ranged Damage, Minor or Moderate TO Training Range.png Ranged Damage power that has a recharge of fast, but not very fast.
Ranged Damage, Minor File:.png .
Ranged Damage, Heavy File:.png .
Sniper Attack File:.png .
Short Ranged Damage File:.png .
Effect Over Time TO Training Attack Rate.png A power that has an effect over a period of time.
Endurance TO Training Endurance Modification.png Endurance related power.
Placate File:.png Placate related power.
Resistance TO Training Damage Resistance.png Damage resistance related power.
Smashing/Lethal Resistance File:.png .
Fire/Cold Resistance File:.png .
Cold Resistance File:.png .
Energy/Negative Energy Resistance File:.png .
Energy Resistance File:.png .
Negative Energy Resistance File:.png .
Run Speed TO Training Running Speed.png Increases the run speed of a power.
Sleep TO Training Sleep Duration.png Sleep control effect.
Slow Movement TO Training Slow powers.png Movement-slowing power.
Slow Recharge File:.png .
Slow Movement and Recharge File:.png .
Stun TO Training Disorient Duration.png Disorient control effect.
Summon One Ally File:.png Summons one pet or henchman.
Summon Two Allies File:.png Summons two pets or henchmen.
Summon Three Allies File:.png Summons three pets or henchmen.
Teleportation, Self File:.png .
Teleportation, Group File:.png .
Teleportation, Target File:.png .
Taunt TO Training Taunt Effectiveness.png Taunt related power.

[[Category:]]






Icons Explained.

Control/Mez icons: Almost all of these you'll be familiar with as they are the same graphic used on a training enhancement. A few exceptions and some unique icons (Force Bubble, Telekinesis, Wormhole) are out there.

Buff and Debuff icons: Buff/debuffs have 2 types of symbols. One is an arc, the other is a triangle. Buff/debuffs with the triangle have an instant effect. For example, Healing Aura gives you hit points. Buffs/debuffs with an arc have persistant effects. For example, Recovery Aura increases your recovery rate for a period of time. A triangle or arc at the top of the icon means a buff. A triangle at the bottom of the icon means a debuff. The exchange symbol is somewhat ambiguous. The way I conceive it, the exchange symbol is only used when the two things being affected are the same. For example, in Absorb Pain caster loses hit points, target gains hit points. Usage is correct. Dark Consumption target loses hit points, caster gains endurance. Usage incorrect. Powers that buff/debuff multiple aspects should be using the icons found in Powers like Equip Thugs, Tactical Upgrade and Serum. Usage of which icon depends on the strength of the buff/debuff.

Resistance icons: The basic resist symbol is the icon used on the training enhancement. There are no resistance buffs used in the iconography. All resistance is assumed to have a buffing effect. Resistance debuff could certainly be a valid symbol, using the downward arc described above. Resistance icons have variations depending on what type of resistance they provide. Temp Invulnerability uses smashing/lethal, Resist Elements uses fire/cold, Resist Energy uses energy/negative energy and Minerals uses a psionic resistance symbol. The symbol for increased resistance to mez effects is used in powers like Unyeilding and Rooted.

Defense icons: The basic defense symbol is a shield. Flavors currently exsist for melee, ranged and AoE defense. Missing are icons for the different types of damage (smash/lethal/fire/cold/toxic/energy/negative energy/psionic). If we used the same symbology as resistance, we could have the flavor of defense on top of the shield symbol and it would be more clear how each defense power functions. A boost to your current mez defense is the symbol used by Clarity.

Melee icons: Any power that does damage could use the icon found on the training enhancement. I consider it the default damage icon. Melee icons have three tiers depending on how much damage they do. Look at Brawl, Punch and Haymaker for examples of tiers 1, 2 and 3. Barrage uses the icon for melee damage over time. The extreme damage symbol used on Nova can also be added into this category. A few more icons exsist such as assassin's strike, elemental weapon, greater elemental weapon and chain-type powers that are used only in certain specific powers.

Ranged icons: Once again, any power that does damage could use the icon found on the training enhancement. The extreme damage symbol used on Nova is part of this category. There are four tiers of standard ranged damage. Only powers with a recharge time of "Very Fast" should use the tier 0 ranged icon as in the power Nuetrino Bolt. Small, medium and large powers use the other ranged icons that appear as skinny, normal and thick beams and I call them Tier 1, 2 and 3. Sniper powers have a unique icon. Short range powers have a unique icon like the one found on the Power Burst icon.

Pet icons: Any power that is a pet or henchman, or effects only a pet or henchman should have a ring at the bottom. If a pet has a specific power effect (taunt or fear) that icon should replace the rising sphere on most of the pet icons. The number of pets summoned should be the number of rising spheres found on the power icon. The pet power icons should be used only when the power summons something that can be killed. Voltaic Sentinal is not a pet, Gun Drone is.

Form icons: Icons should be used when you actually shift forms. Kheldian Nova and Dwarf powers use this icon. IMO, Granite should use this as well.

New Icons Needed In thinking about this, I found the game really, really needs some additional icons not currently used but are consistent with existing iconography. Flavored defense and resistance debuffs are desperately needed, imo.

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