User talk:Fleeting Whisper

Welcome!

Hello, Fleeting Whisper, and welcome to the Paragon Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Feel free to fill out your personal user page so we can get to know you. There is a collection of Userboxes you can easily add there. Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date.

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Again, welcome! ∙ Snorii  Talk ∙ Contribs 10:00, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Disambiguation pages

I've noticed you've been creating some disambiguation pages lately. Those are tremendously helpful, so thanks for taking the time to do it! When making them, though, it's not necessary to create a page with the name "(Disambiguation)" in its title -- especially if the page name without that is redirecting there. So for example -- please just make "Gale" a disambiguation; don't redirect "Gale" to "Gale (Disambiguation)". Disambiguation pages shouldn't have that in the title except in unusual circumstances. Thanks! -- Sekoia 14:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Paragon Times Articles

Just wanted to say thanks for pitching in on the Paragon Times articles. I'm delighted to see that someone is interested in helping on those.  :) --Eabrace 16:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

It's official. You are an archiving machine. In appreciation, I award you the unofficial title of Paragon Wiki's own Paragon Times Archivist. Here's a badge to go with your new title.

:D --Eabrace 06:02, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

D'aww, thanks :) Still can't find a bunch of the images, though... :( --Fleeting Whisper 06:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi Fleeting! Just thought I'd offer a quick tip. If you leave the edit summary blank when creating a redirect, the wiki will automatically fill it in for you. So #REDIRECT [[Badges]] would automatically get an edit summary of "Redirecting to Badges" if you leave it blank. It helps make it clearer in the Recent Changes log what's going on, and makes it easier on the editor since they don't have to type it out. :) (It's certainly not required though so don't feel obligated to do it!) -- Sekoia 14:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Animated Emote Images

Hey, Fleeting, could you do me a big favor and hold off on uploading the animated emote images for a bit? I think they might be choking out the wiki on the back end. I tried to bring up the Uncategorized Files page and the wiki appeared to work on it for over half an hour and never even started displaying the page, let alone the thumbnails. Going to the Upload Log and opening the images one by one to add categories to them, about 3/4 came up after very long delays and the rest were generating database errors.

Database error
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from within function "". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction (localhost)".

I know it's not viewing the images itself that's the issue for me. I can go to Mantid's guide and pop the images right up with no perceivable delay. It just seems the wiki isn't handling the images well at all.

I'm going to see if I can get a clearer picture of what's going on from the wiki's side of things and I'll try to get back to you with whatever info I can get.

Thanks. --Eabrace 05:07, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, Sekioa dug around a bit in the backend and got everything at least semi-functional. The thumbnail generation is still an issue, but the images themselves are at least able to display and accept edits to their descriptions without producing database query errors now. Might take a while before Sekoia or Tony gets the chance to figure out the rest of the puzzle, but we should be at least in a state where the images are usable now.

So, I think you can go ahead and resume uploading. But if you could do me one more favor and tag the images with [[Category:Emote Images]] when you upload them, that'll make it easier for us to keep the Uncategorized Files pages mostly clear.  :)

Thanks for your patience. --Eabrace 06:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I saved the original leveling image from Mantid's site and modified it by removing every other frame of animation to cut the file size roughly in half. I've uploaded it here. Think that'll be sufficient? --Eabrace 01:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I left a response on my talk page. -- Agge _(talk) 06:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

In response to your message: I've got you covered on that one. Plug this emote into a demo file and you'll be all set.

0 0001 MOV EMOTE_THROWSNOWFLAKES 0

--Eabrace 04:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Overview

Just wanted to remind you, per guidelines, to create an Overview for each article you create. All of the recent articles you've created have lacked an Overview. ~ AGGE talk/cons 06:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

(I am copying this from my talk page, to keep the whole conversation together) ~ AGGE talk/cons

There are a buttload of pages on the wiki without a section titled "Overview", so I'm not really sure where this guideline comes from. After your post on my talk page, I did look around for (and eventually managed to find) the Article Guidelines page, but it wasn't an obvious find. And even then, it's a ginle sentence buried in a page of guidelines, with the only reference being a post from TonyV on the Paragon Forums.

I hit Random Page a few times just now, and of the pages that weren't disambiguation pages, or tiny things that aren't really articles (such as the individual Emote pages), I found about a 1:1 ratio of pages with and without == Overview ==.

I guess my point is twofold:

1. The guidelines aren't obviously found, at least in my experience. Since joining, I've been working off of common sense and what I see throughout the rest of the wiki.
2. I don't understand the need or reason for this specific guideline, particularly when half the articles I look at don't follow it.

 FW (talk · contrib)  01:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Unless it's a badge page (these have their own layout), an item page (again, their own layout), a player guide (no template/layout guidelines), or a handful of other kinds of pages, every page should have an Overview top heading. A few may have a Description top heading instead of Overview, depending on the article content (character pages always have an Overview top heading). If it doesn't, add it; that's how you make wikis conform to their guidelines if other people forget. You do realize that since TonyV asked us to do that (doesn't matter when or where), it's in the guidelines and that's what we should do, since it's ultimately his project?

I added links in three places to Article Guidelines on the Table of Contents page (Article Guidelines, Guidelines, Policies), and to the Editing help page, which is linked to when editing a page. The guidelines were already linked on the Help page. Can you suggest other places for the guidelines to be placed?

Also, please reply here instead of on my talk page. I watch the recent changes page for talk page comments, you don't need to reply on mine. This way the conversation stays in one place and everyone else can follow it without having to go through several talk pages to find it all. ~ AGGE talk/cons 03:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Animated Images

Rather than continue to post stuff about this on the Emotes talk page, I decided to pay you a visit to further inquire about this - I'm working on the Animation Customization page as a little bit of a pet project, and recently collected the MOV lines for (most of) the powers with multiples, after you told me what was needed.

I've run into two problems, though. I don't have access to a copy of Photoshop and would rather not go off into pirate land for it, and I can't figure out how to properly get the isolated demo you made to work with Assassin's Blow, since it's got multiple animation calls and timing and whatnot - the actual attack animation works fine, but I just can't get the windup to do anything.

I wrote up all the information I collected at Talk:Animation Customization/Demo Recording and was hoping you could take a look and tell me if you can do anything with it when you get a chance.

Thanks =) Draeth Darkstar 05:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I did modify both slightly, but tested them to make sure they worked as expected before posting, and just re-checked them by copying them directly off the wiki page and running them straight as was. That said, I'll put the originals in full text on my talk page (don't want to clutter yours up). Just realized I actually saved the edits to the originals without making copies, so I actually don't have them anymore. They are both working for me though, using Zloth's demo launcher. How are you viewing them? Draeth Darkstar 07:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The only things I can think of are, is it possible that you didn't get the full text copied? I don't really know anything about the demo recording system, but I'm guessing it would break in unusual ways if part of the beginning or end was missing? Or possibly different graphics settings causing issues? Draeth Darkstar 22:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Incarnate Components

Wait wait! Before you start getting too carried away, there is already a template for Incarnate components, {{IComponent}}. As seen on, for instance, Cardiac Boost, you simply use the name of the component (without " Component"). Please stop making individual templates, as we'll just have to go delete them all. :) ~ AGGE talk/cons 05:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Yep, images that aren't named in a standard way have to be added manually to {{IComponentImage}}. ~ AGGE talk/cons 05:46, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, {{IAbility}} for abilities that are part of the recipe; likewise, images have to be added manually to {{IAbilityImage}}. ~ AGGE talk/cons 05:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Judgement images have now been added.  :) --Eabrace 05:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)