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− | The Lord Recluse Strike Force involves acquiring the Orestes Rifle to nullify enchantments granted by the Well of Furies to utilize against Ms. Liberty. I also point you to our own [http:// | + | The Lord Recluse Strike Force involves acquiring the Orestes Rifle to nullify enchantments granted by the Well of Furies to utilize against Ms. Liberty. I also point you to our own [http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Incarnate Incarnate page], wherein you will notice that both Ms. Liberty and her mother are identified as possessing items which grant them Incarnate powers, as well as genetically inheriting some of their talents from Statesman, who is a full Incarnate himself. Hero 1's powers came from accepting Excalibur, which the Girdle of Hera also signifies. [[User:Fragment of Nothing|Fragment of Nothing]] 04:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC) |
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+ | First of all, using the wiki as proof of something without some official source to back it up is sketchy at best. That being said, you do make some good points and I will concede that it's not true that there is no evidence, just no conclusive proof. The Orestes rifles does make it seem likely. We do not know, however, whether Incarnate status is something that can actually be inherited, even though some of the powers that come with it apparently can be. We also don't know for sure that possessing the Girdle of Hera makes one an Incarnate like being the chosen user of Excalibur does. Trapdoor also has an Incarnate item which gives him power, but it seems from the Incarnate arc that it doesn't actually make him an Incarnate himself because he hasn't been chosen by the Well. Given these things, it does seem possible even likely that she is an Incarnate, but until something either within the game or from one of the dev says for sure that's the case, it doesn't seem right to just declare her one and throw it up there as fact. Perhaps an added section saying the she is a likely Incarnate would be an acceptable compromise. [[User:Catwhowalksbyhimself|Catwhowalksbyhimself]] 00:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Ms. Liberty's Incarnate Status
The Lord Recluse Strike Force involves acquiring the Orestes Rifle to nullify enchantments granted by the Well of Furies to utilize against Ms. Liberty. I also point you to our own Incarnate page, wherein you will notice that both Ms. Liberty and her mother are identified as possessing items which grant them Incarnate powers, as well as genetically inheriting some of their talents from Statesman, who is a full Incarnate himself. Hero 1's powers came from accepting Excalibur, which the Girdle of Hera also signifies. Fragment of Nothing 04:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
First of all, using the wiki as proof of something without some official source to back it up is sketchy at best. That being said, you do make some good points and I will concede that it's not true that there is no evidence, just no conclusive proof. The Orestes rifles does make it seem likely. We do not know, however, whether Incarnate status is something that can actually be inherited, even though some of the powers that come with it apparently can be. We also don't know for sure that possessing the Girdle of Hera makes one an Incarnate like being the chosen user of Excalibur does. Trapdoor also has an Incarnate item which gives him power, but it seems from the Incarnate arc that it doesn't actually make him an Incarnate himself because he hasn't been chosen by the Well. Given these things, it does seem possible even likely that she is an Incarnate, but until something either within the game or from one of the dev says for sure that's the case, it doesn't seem right to just declare her one and throw it up there as fact. Perhaps an added section saying the she is a likely Incarnate would be an acceptable compromise. Catwhowalksbyhimself 00:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)